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Carolyn Brouillard's avatar

Interesting. It seems you can find big industry wherever there is money to be made. Most big organic food companies are now owned by the mega corporations. Same with many renewable energy companies being owned by big oil or electric. They try to own and control the competition

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Hannah Violette's avatar

Dude, I feel like we're becoming buddies here...I am a former health coach. Well, sort of former. I was a weight loss coach in one of the biggest diet MLMs disguised as creating health...and when their plan started unaliving me...well, let's just say I have been forging my own path as a healer, because when I turned to Nature...it's a whole new world. There is a place for money because in this matrix we rely on some form of energy exchange and until we all decide to stop playing the game, there will be that. In my own life, I fired all of my doctors, ditched all the scripts, and have been learning - slowly but surely - that my body has all the wisdom I need for health and wholeness. BTW - I just ordered your book.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hannah! I still have to respond to your other comment, but I got to this one first!

First, thanks for the support — and we are becoming buddies! I think it helps since we both have that “medical”background, but have become aware to the truth of things — so we can see clearly now.

I too barely utilize any mainstream medicine. We can bring back healing as it’s intended to be ❤️

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TriTorch's avatar

The good ole narrative and counter-narrative working in tandem to milk us dry.

Ivermectin is/was a psychological operation. God only knows what was actually in those pills.

The good news is that Jesus always provides a way out of these situations so long as you listen to Him. Here is how to cast them out:

Matthew 17:21: However, this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting. ←Removed from modern bibles.

Mark 9:29: And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.]

More info on this here: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/by-your-magic-spell-all-the-nations

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Quantum Animation's avatar

My career was in this industry, and I agree 100% with your analysis. Another important aspect of the extreme toxicity of this industry is how the people working in it are treated. It is the most heartless, brutal, abusive group of companies and people I have ever encountered. It's all about money and power. The people on the bottom rungs are paid poverty wages and work in sweatshop environments. They are played for stooges because they "really want to help people". I worked for Whole Foods and it was a Nazi torture chamber. I have PTSD from it and still have regular nightmares.

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jennifer dibley's avatar

First of all bless your food that is why saying grace is so important. Secondly I don’t think pointing out the billions made in so called holistic health care supplements is saying big pharma is good. I never read that implication in the quote. Now the person who said it might have meant that. But there are shills and money makers and users and abusers in the alternative health arena

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Tom Karnes's avatar

Enter the Sickness company big Pharma

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Craig's avatar

"...you shouldn’t trust a guy on a podcast pushing a vitamin."

Says who?

Perma-muted.

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Sober Christian Gentleman's avatar

Want to piss off the leftist, blast post this podcast episode on slavery truth, they will loose their minds:

https://open.substack.com/pub/soberchristiangentlemanpodcast/p/the-slavery-deception-2025-unmasking?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=31s3eo

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Jane's avatar

Eye opening article. I feel like I should have figured this out years ago but didn't. So... what is real? What is safe? What does not feed the predatory systems we are trying to escape?

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Ralph Pike's avatar

I don't see how anyone with a working brain cell can conflate "beauty" products with herbal medicines, as just one example on your money "graph".

Risible garbage.

You must be desperate to do an Agent131711-style hatchet job for reasons best known to yourself.

I suppose the nutritional/herbal experts should all work for free and live off the aether? 🤡

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Portraits in Fitness's avatar

That’s not the author’s graph, and is Exhibit A for his argument that Wellness is a far smaller profit engine than Pharma, although it’s also owned and run by a significant degree by the same groups.

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Ralph Pike's avatar

The OP posted it and it is totally misleading for whatever argument you think is being made.

The very concept of "wellness" displayed in that graph is a joke.

You don't make credible points if your start point is without merit.

I would begin to have some sympathy with your comments if there was a subsequent chart with some truth to it.

Of course the vitamin/mineral/herbal industry has pharma controlling large portions of it. In the main, producing toxic crap.

Don't buy those products. The ethical manufacturers make an absolutely miniscule profit by comparison to the pharma cartel.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hey Ralph — I think we’re all saying the same thing:

“Wellness is controlled by Big Pharma.”

Am I missing something?

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Ralph Pike's avatar

Hi Franklin,

I really don't like the term Wellness and I really don't like beauty products, gyms, etc being lumped in with genuine natural health products. Or should it be the other way round?

Some of what you say in the article I agree with but there is an awful lot I take issue with.

I don't have the time or inclination to address it all which is why I didn't mention it.

My big problem is “Wellness”.

Re big pharma controlling it, they control pretty much everything since the Flexner report. Between the petroleum industry, pharma and finance, we don't have much left.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Thanks Ralph! Yep, we're on the same page—and that's what I was calling out. They lump in beauty, gym, spas—even 'resorts' as "wellness." Totally messing everything up.

Yep, we're on the same page. Flexner and Rockefeller really control everything—and make us pay for it. But by making people aware, especially younger adults and children, I'm hopeful we can stop the reliance on their products.

Thanks for the comment sir! Much appreciated 😊

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Ralph Pike's avatar

I must have taken the wrong tone from the article or maybe just got my hackles raised with the odd comment I didn't like.

Thank you for taking the time to reply and I'm happy to appreciate what you were trying to achieve.

I honestly didn't "get the message".

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Portraits in Fitness's avatar

I don’t think anyone commenting here disagrees about who runs these industries and sub-sectors, and that we don’t want any part of them.

Merck developing the ‘mectin, and a whole host of “alternative health” and media pied pipers to push it and profit (like supplement podcasters) is a perfect example.

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Ralph Pike's avatar

The whole ivermectin issue is extremely complex, so I always like to go back to basics.

IVM is a pharma drug. By definition it is not a natural product and should be viewed with suspicion as a starting point. BUT:

It appears to be safe (in comparison to most pharma drugs) and it also appears to be an effective antiparasitic medication.

There are natural treatments I would personally prefer, but in the scheme of things I believe the above statements are true, notwithstanding the problems that accompany any pharma treatment.

When convid started, the WHO specifically and repeatedly stated IVM should not be used to treat convid.

Bill Gates funded action against doctors in the US who advocated IVM, to try and get it stopped.

How does that tally with the screaming diatribe from some of the "natural health movement" that IVM is part of the depopulation programme? Surely both the WHO and Gated would have been promoting the Hell out of IVM?

Dr Lawrie provided what I considered to be the best take on IVM when she blew the "great big dossier" on it out of the water.

It is far more likely that the pharma cartel wants to suppress IVM because it inadvertently made a whole load of people better by ridding them of parasitic infection (and we all know what parasites can cause) when they were "treated" for the non-existent convid.

To summarize my position for the avoidance of doubt:

SARS-CoV-2 is a scam.

Convid is a scam.

Pharma drugs are never first choice treatments unless heroic life-saving intervention is required.

IVM was found to help people diagnosed with a non-existent disease, when treated. This was, from the perspective of the pharma cartel, an unforeseen tragedy and they have employed/duped the "health freedom movement" to slam the lid on it.

I consider the latter sentence to contain a tragedy. Complicit agents working for the pharma cartel pretending to be "truthers".

Further proof of this, segueing off for a moment, is the almost complete lack of promotion of the Scottish Covid Enquiry by the prominent "truthers".

I defer to biologyphenom on this and fully support his position on "our" leading lights, who remain puzzlingly silent.

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biologyphenom's avatar

One of my last comments before my sudden X ban without any explanation was - ‘Ivermectin cannot cure prolonged isolation, medical neglect, no human rights, misuse DNRs, overuse Midazolam…why aren’t ‘awake’ Drs speaking about Scottish COVID inquiry instead?’’

https://biologyphenom.substack.com/p/newsuspended-from-xtwitter?utm_source=publication-search

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Ralph Pike's avatar

It is the real tragedy. It makes you wonder if all this focus on "no virus" is just a smokescreen to divert the real argument from "no vaccines".

Vaccines will continue without viruses, and the killing machine will continue without viruses. They just need to "release" a deadly bacteria which has been "gain of functioned" and the sheeple will hoover it up like the good little followers they are.

I'm not saying "no virus" is unimportant.

Of course it is.

But the vaccine industry is not dependant on viruses, as we have seen and are continuing to see.

The big problem is "pandemic" control.

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