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It seems like you haven’t done your homework on Nicole Shanahan. Yes she has deep ties to Silicon Valley but she’s also gone through quite an evolution and has earned her stripes as a member of our nation’s most noble political force: “Warrior Moms”.

Also, regarding RFK’s view on Climate Change, his principal tool for fighting it is Regenerative Agriculture.

Regarding viruses, I believe RFK was going to coordinate a debate on the matter but don’t think it has happened yet.

I know that RFK is becoming more and more data/evidence driven. He’s very hard to keep up with.

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We tried to coordinate said debate with someone from CHD and Alec Zeck but they kept side railing it. That kind of truth is just too much for the mainstream as of now.

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Thank you for clarifying. Yeah, it’s a lot to take on.

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I share your views regarding RFK and it would be unrealistic to expect someone who is polar opposite to take up such a role even assuming such a person existed within the current framework.. But at least his tenure has the potential to change the course from one that is 100% in the wrong direction to one that steer things a few degrees toward the right direction. It took decades if not centuries to get us to the terrible state of affairs we are currently living through and it will no doubt take decades to steer things back on course.

The real difference will be in whether those of us who can see the medical system for what it is will have total medical freedom to avoid it while the rest of the world continues to stumble in the dark with people like RFK at the helm. Just leave us alone, that's all I ask for.

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Viruses are real

The idea that viruses don’t exist is a fringe notion often rooted in misinformation or misunderstandings of science. This theory typically denies the role of viruses in causing diseases and questions their existence altogether. However, there is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting the existence of viruses. Here’s a breakdown of the topic:

Why Some Believe Viruses Don’t Exist

1. Misinterpretation of Science: Some individuals misunderstand how viruses are detected or observed, leading them to doubt their existence.

2. Alternative Health Theories: Certain alternative health movements reject mainstream medicine and claim that diseases attributed to viruses are caused by toxins, poor diet, or other factors.

3. Skepticism About Germ Theory: A small group of people disputes the germ theory of disease, which is a foundational principle of microbiology.

4. Misuse of Terminology: Claims about viruses often confuse scientific jargon, such as the distinction between “isolation” and “purification,” to cast doubt on viral studies.

Evidence That Viruses Do Exist

1. Microscopic Observation:

• Viruses can be observed directly using electron microscopy. Scientists have photographed and analyzed their structures, such as the spikes on coronaviruses.

2. Genetic Evidence:

• Viral DNA or RNA can be extracted, sequenced, and studied. This has been done extensively for viruses like HIV, influenza, and SARS-CoV-2.

3. Laboratory Experiments:

• Viruses can be grown in cell cultures, and their effects on cells (e.g., cytopathic effects) can be observed and replicated.

4. Vaccines:

• Vaccines targeting specific viruses, such as measles or COVID-19, demonstrate the existence and prevention of viral infections.

5. Epidemiological Data:

• Outbreaks of diseases caused by viruses, such as polio or smallpox, have clear patterns and are distinct from bacterial or environmental causes.

Why These Theories Are Problematic

1. Contradict Established Science:

• Denying viruses disregards decades of rigorous research in virology, microbiology, and immunology.

2. Health Risks:

• Rejecting the role of viruses can lead to dangerous behaviors, such as avoiding vaccines or treatments, increasing the spread of preventable diseases.

3. Misinformation:

• Such claims often rely on pseudoscience and lack peer-reviewed evidence, misleading people who may not have a scientific background.

Conclusion

Viruses are real, extensively studied entities with profound impacts on health and biology. While skepticism is a natural part of science, the notion that viruses don’t exist has no credible evidence and can be harmful when it influences public health decisions.

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There's nothing fringe about the belief that viruses don't or at least might not exist. The fact is that until a few years ago it simply wasn't a topic on anyone's radar and since it has become more mainstream there is a lot of evidence to suggest that virology (which is still a theory to this day - part of what is known as germ theory as opposed to terrain theory) does not adequately explain why people get sick. There are so many points that could be made here but simply the most basic point of why can't viruses be directly observed in a sample taken from a sick person but instead need to be adulterated and cultured first?

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All people need to do is read Can You Catch a Cold and/or Sam Bailey’s The End of Pandemics, if that’s the correct name. Even reading just the tables of contents of these two books exposes the fairy tale that is germ theory and it’s complements: contagion, infections, bad bacteria, etc

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Sadly it seems very few people actually read these days. In my case I intuitively knew something was wrong almost immediately and the one thing I did have during those awful years was time. Having concluded it was a hoax, I needed to find out how and why and so I read everything I could find including the books you mentioned. It was both depressing and isolating to find the truth that nobody else seemed to want to hear but at the same time it was liberating to know there was and is no germ based threat, even if that didn’t mean there wasn’t some kind of poisoning going on. Ultimately I think most of it was in the mind and also stress induced.

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Definitely behavior modification through propaganda & brainwashing techniques. Sadly midazolam & remdesivir (the “first wave”) were used in hospitals to cause respiratory & kidney failure, respectively. Graphene oxide in the form of nano razor blades in tests, masks, cloud seeding, 5G installed in hospitals & schools - more oxygen deprivation, and so much more

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There are 2 types of people, ones who accept blindely what the media, and government tell them. These people are called sheeple. The second type of people are the thinkers, who analysis the so called facts for logics, and if they didn't fit rejects them.

You are too busy trying to prove to us the lies of the presstitute, the whores in the Medical system, and the gangsters in government. 4 years after that big lies have been exposed, only retards continues to defend it. 20 years after the Iraq invasion and devastating crimes of the government, there are still few retards who continues to defend such savagery.

From where I stand, you are lost cause, and I will not make any useless attemps to rrefute all the bs you written in defense of lies.

The Latin word for virus is POISON. Nuff said.

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Right on the money, mois78. Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't believe for a moment that Charlie is honestly open to looking at the droves of evidence that prove that viruses and the viral-contagion theories are bogus, despite his attempt at appearing unbiased. One could speculate about why, but really . . . who cares? I know several degreed and "highly educated" people, including a Phd that offer the most sophomoric illogical fallacies to justify their pro-virus arguments. To me, they've been entirely educated out of their common sense, which use is all that's necessary when one sees the evidence proving that viruses (as currently defined) don't exist. It never ceases to amaze me. There are MANY vectors that determine why people get "sick" which are (stupidly) overlooked by the mainstream medicos, which I won't go into here, but are probably already known by most of the folks on this thread. I'm so grateful for people that still have common sense and critical thinking skills. Such people are an oasis of sanity in the current prevalent desert of insanity. In any case, I hope and pray RFK overcomes his strange belief in the man-made climate change scam and doesn't turn out to be just another Trojan Horse of the cabal.

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Wodarg’s view about viruses and their role in how they cause sickness is likely what I think you mean when you say you dont believe in viruses.

Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, a German physician and politician, gained attention for his controversial views on viruses, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. His statements often challenge mainstream virology and public health responses, leading to significant criticism from the scientific community.

Key Views of Wolfgang Wodarg on Viruses

1. Skepticism of Pandemic Severity:

• Wodarg argued that COVID-19 was overhyped and not significantly more dangerous than the flu. He claimed that the pandemic was driven by fear and commercial interests, such as pharmaceutical companies benefiting from vaccine sales.

2. Criticism of Testing Methods:

• He questioned the reliability of PCR testing, claiming it could yield false positives and was being misused to inflate case numbers.

3. Challenge to Virology:

• While Wodarg does not outright deny the existence of viruses, he has implied that their role in diseases is often exaggerated. He has promoted the idea that other factors, such as environmental or social conditions, contribute more to health issues.

4. Opposition to Vaccines:

• He has been a vocal critic of COVID-19 vaccines, claiming they were rushed, untested, and unsafe. He suggested that the vaccines posed greater risks than the virus itself.

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Regurgitating talking points doesn't prove anything.

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You might want to read Medicine Girl’s Substack.

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AN OPEN LETTER TO ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.

Your Top 8 Wildest Claims and Why Your Dangerous Pseudoscience Has No Place in Public Health

https://substack.com/home/post/p-152147774

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Over the years, my view on RFK JR. has mostly changed as I have been exposed to various camera angles on him.

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Um... no

To those thinking politicians serve the people, i disagree completely

For example-

RFK is the definition of the Hegalian dialectic Synthesis, Harris is the Thesis, Trump the Antithesis.

When people suggest the provided actors from the establishment are going to save us, they are implying the same establishment raping and pillaging the people can provide the solution. That's my yardstick actually. If they are propping up the establishment, if they are maintaining the critical lies no matter how much truth the spruik, if they are pushing the blockchain biodigital convergence carbon credit score slavery system- like RFK is, it is a no from me. I never understood the false dichotomy of left and right ( pre - BS19 ), but that's only one aspect of the deception. The THESIS ANTITHESIS SYNTHESIS is the real game that like left and right theatre, it's beyond the majorities capacity.

There is a lot of idolatry going on, many from the social engineers actually, but the susceptible flock too.

I just dont think people have a grasp on the perception management complex if they are still taken in by the spoon fed heroes.

At federal level, there is no platform for those outside the establishment. The supposed truthers they present to the counter narrative followers are just pushing the illusion of govern / ment, that they are anything but what the word suggests, controllers of the collective mind

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He's a comedian at worst, another disappointment at best. When has anyone been an exception to that, lol? Also, RFK is making terribly bold claims, like "I'm going to fix the healthcare system!" YEAH OKAY buddy 👍 that's a trillion dollar death industry owned by blackrock with Satanic thinktanks making the curriculum for universities. You'd literally have you invert EVERYTHING, every single aspect of it, to "fix" it.

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Good to hear your up to speed on the virus fraud issue! I produced The End of Covid w/ Alec Zeck. If anyone is still on the fence or think it’s crazy to state there’s no proof for viruses, I challenge them to go through that online course. It will change your life!

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I was a huge RFK Jr. Supporter, supported his Children's Health Defense and read all his books. A few things always really concerned me about him but the good things outweighed it. But when he vehemently continuously supported the Racist Psychopathic Zionist Genocide of Defenseless mostly Women, Children and Old People in Gaza with his Best Buddy Insane Racist Genocidal Smut Merchant with his own Daughter Rabbi Shmuley he exposed what he really is.

I believe he will do many good things at HHS but it will eventually be Fascism of what you can and cannot eat/drink and how much and if you should be allowed to live.

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There's nothing to indicate "it will eventually be Fascism" and plenty to indicate it already is. My hope is that conventional medicine and their perpetrators will stop being subsidized and that the shackles will be struck off all the "alternative" modalities that are effective but cost-prohibitive. Because "patients" are a captive audience who only have one (always allopathic) "choice" and no information that will actually fix their problems.

How do you think the very rich get their healthcare? They pay for it out-of-pocket or pay for insurance that actually covers things like naturopathy. They have access to clean food, can have their own wells and any device they can pay for to fix their problems. Best of all, they can get a respite from stress and lack existential problems like keeping the roof(s) over their heads and feeding themselves consistently and well. Detox vacations are actually a thing, as they should be. My hope is that the new norm doesn't get managed by the same corporate and government leeches, thereby degrading it.

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Thank you for your nuanced take and your hopeful outlook. I’ve been reading extreme views on RFK’s nom and this has so far been the most reasonable.

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Sadly, RFK has authored a “vaccine confidence” bill with Del Bigtree, saying that as long as the FDA deems a vaccine to be “safe and effective”, people should (have to?) take them. In my book, this makes him a dangerous person to head HHS. He’s also a Zionist friend to Israel (as is Trump). Thanks for calling him out on spreading the climate change hoax. This may be how he’s gotten as far as he has, & alive. He’ll be running the climate con game from a position of power, yikes.

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I am very mildly optimistic that some things may change for the better due to the election, especially in the field of "public health" if RFK Jr gets the HHS position. But among other things, I do wonder how many times RFK Jr went to Epstein Island. I wonder if the reason he has been out there doing his thing for so long with CHD, unscathed, is merely because he is some type of controlled opposition. Lord knows if one of us had stared CHD, we would have been shut down and thrown in jail the day after we launched.

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Chris, you make a very cogent point. My hope is, as is the hope of so many of us, that he's not controlled opposition. But I certainly couldn't argue your point when I look at how many doctor's that opposed the mainstream covid narrative got prosecuted, etc. How has RFK, Jr. been able to present such and vocal opposition to vaccines unscathed. I think we're probably missing some very vital data that would answer that question. One could endlessly speculate about what the missing data could be though.

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I totally agree - controlled opposition, there to further UN Agenda 21 in the guise of the climate change hoax

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With You! We must keep in mind that the performance We see on the LITERAL world STAGE is designed to cast sandy hooks into Our emotions and drag Us where They want Us. They want Us worshiping Trump and so the man He will appoint for DHS (who still supports jabs in general!) is saying things to help that hook on in.

When the hook is good and embedded, People will bow to Trump's every command, seeing Him as "The Savior."

We might want to...

Escape the Cave! (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/escape-the-cave

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Agreed! Reading article now, thanks

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🙏🏻 💜 🙏🏻 I look forward to Your thoughts!

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