The fear of God seems counter intuitive. How can you love what you fear? Love and fear are ostensibly mutually exclusive. However, when it is seen in the light of our relationship to the Living God who breathed life into us and knows the beginning from the end and every hair on our heads, fear is seen as a metaphor for separation. Just as Adam and Eve were one in spirit with God and they were fully obedient to Him, they had access to Him and communed with Him. God being complete and Holy, allows His creation full free will. Again, it seems counter intuitive. Obey, all good. disobey, punishment. Again, it is literal and metaphysical. God being Holy, always seeks reconciliation to Himself and what He intended...balance, harmony, peace, love, etc. Our obedience is by following the "still small voice" that God gave each of us because we were created in the image of God, not physically but our spirit is from Him and so in its obedience is a reflection of Him. So, the "fear of God" is when we disobey we are left with a void that seeks to be filled. Unless were seek God's voice with "all your mind, heart and soul" so that when we are "still and know that I am God", He will hear us and we will hear Him. In that, we do not feed the carnal mind that seeks to fill the void of separation through drugs, sex and money. In spirit, those things take on a different meaning, when there is love from God and we no longer fear Him.
Joe - thanks for this comment! And I agree with your overall premise here. The question, how can you love what you fear is like children. As children, we love our parents, but when we break the vase, we're terrified of what is to come. But overall, we know that our parents love us, but that 'fear' is still there.
That fear is what I've become liberated from, and one could very well argue that as 'adults' we too become liberated from that fear. My idea is that some don't become liberated and still fear the wrath of God, or going outside of the line, which limits their experience.
Yes, sin is sin, but in gray areas like, when pastors tell their congregations to do X,Y, and Z (for example, "Jesus would get vaccinated"), in those scenarios, the 'fear' to do what is right is used inappropriately.
This is the fear that I've overcome. Like the child, I know the vase is broken, but understand what comes next.
That's the best way I can put this, but let me know your thoughts.
Pastors are running political buildings essentially (literally). I really want people seeking Christ to avoid most churches these days, the vast majority. That's why they push trusting the government, "news" as reality, medical system, vaccines, laws, and around voting seasons they subtly encourage you to go out and vote, even pushing the particular candidates they support. So for instance if the pastor is conservative, they'll usually be lowkey Trumpers, which is not something God would support either way because obviously, when we vote for what we believe to be a 'lesser' evil, we're supporting evil.
Biblically, the "church" wasn't a building, it was any body of believers, anywhere, studying God's word, no pastor or middleman needed!
I agree, Joe. It's not so much the fear of God but the fear of living without Him.
@franklin, it's also really important to look deeper into the text, particularly the Old Testament, and explore the meanings of the words in their original Hebrew and in their cultural context. Two examples:
1) 'obey' has a very different definition and meaning in our cultural context than it did in Moses' time. Merriam Webster will tell you 'obey' is to conform or to comply and gives examples such as a child or a dog. In Hebrew, the word is שָׁמַע shâmaʻ, shaw-mah'; which means to hear, to hear intelligently, to discern. There's an important distinction in that He is not asking for our blind and passive obedience. He has offered a path to everlasting life and a model of perfection in His son, and he is asking for us to show us that we heard Him by doing what He asks.
2) similarly, would it blow your mind if I told you that the very first word of the first book already says that he will send his Son to save the world? for that you need to look at the Hebrew word, 'bereshith' (in the beginning), but look at the Paleo-Hebrew word pictures that make up the word. Unfortunately I can't add images to this comment but if you message me I will send you the word picture of 'bereshith' - decoded, the letters spell out an amazing message.
Here's what each letter in Bereshith conveys:
Beyt (tent, house)
in, into, family, household
Resh (head of a man)
a person, the head, the highest
Alef (ox, bull)
strength, leader, first, El (God)
Shin (teeth)
to eat, to destroy, to consume
Yod (hand, arm)
work, deed, to make
Tav (sign)
to covenant, to mark, to seal
Putting these symbols together gives us something profound:
“The Son of the strong leader (El) goes forward to destruction (death) by His own hand to the covenant (the cross).”
Franklin has been attacking Christ quite a bit, it's obvious that he doesn't *want* to change his heart, as he doesn't respond to any kind of rebuttal with regard to his non-belief.
Lucas, our English translations are riddled with at best misleading and at worst outright wrong renderings of the original language. A few common words with a misleading shade of meaning can change the overall message.
Example: 'diakos' and its inflections are translated as righteous, upright, even pure; but means kind, loving, altruistic, (a true follower of the Golden Rule).
Baal and Moloch? Certainly the Zionists live in accordance with the commands put forth by "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 7. They are doing Moloch's work, genocide, plundering and stealing land. How can any true follower of Christ support that?
Dude - Richard, I saw your comment initially, but I just thought about it again and was like, "snap, you're right. Modern Zionists still follow the laws of 'The Lords' as in Baal and Moloch." I just started researching this and other ideas are coming to mind here. Thanks for this comment!
That's the thing Richard, those idiots supporting Israel are NOT true followers of Christ. You can't discern that, the "true" ones, without actually following Christ yourself, it's impossible. Actually, the Bible defines a true believer, but most pastors ignore those verses. Most Christians, aren't really Christians.
It is crystal clear that the New Testament 'overrules' many of the precepts in the Old Testament. The clearest example is Paul's vision and conversion in Acts. Much of the latter New Testament, especially Galatians, Hebrews, and Ephesians focuses on warning die-hard (religious) Jews that 'We must divide the Law properly' and even 'If you accept circumcision Jesus will be of no value to you!' Jesus Himself made this clear, in the Good Samaritan (VERY 'toevah' at the time), and in declaring in Matthew 7:12, Do to and for others as you would have them do to and for you, for this is THE Law AND THE Prophets.' (capitalization of AND, THE for correct translation, original Greek are emphatic words)
Clearly, the New Testament overrules the Old, emphatically and strongly.
The fear of God seems counter intuitive. How can you love what you fear? Love and fear are ostensibly mutually exclusive. However, when it is seen in the light of our relationship to the Living God who breathed life into us and knows the beginning from the end and every hair on our heads, fear is seen as a metaphor for separation. Just as Adam and Eve were one in spirit with God and they were fully obedient to Him, they had access to Him and communed with Him. God being complete and Holy, allows His creation full free will. Again, it seems counter intuitive. Obey, all good. disobey, punishment. Again, it is literal and metaphysical. God being Holy, always seeks reconciliation to Himself and what He intended...balance, harmony, peace, love, etc. Our obedience is by following the "still small voice" that God gave each of us because we were created in the image of God, not physically but our spirit is from Him and so in its obedience is a reflection of Him. So, the "fear of God" is when we disobey we are left with a void that seeks to be filled. Unless were seek God's voice with "all your mind, heart and soul" so that when we are "still and know that I am God", He will hear us and we will hear Him. In that, we do not feed the carnal mind that seeks to fill the void of separation through drugs, sex and money. In spirit, those things take on a different meaning, when there is love from God and we no longer fear Him.
Joe - thanks for this comment! And I agree with your overall premise here. The question, how can you love what you fear is like children. As children, we love our parents, but when we break the vase, we're terrified of what is to come. But overall, we know that our parents love us, but that 'fear' is still there.
That fear is what I've become liberated from, and one could very well argue that as 'adults' we too become liberated from that fear. My idea is that some don't become liberated and still fear the wrath of God, or going outside of the line, which limits their experience.
Yes, sin is sin, but in gray areas like, when pastors tell their congregations to do X,Y, and Z (for example, "Jesus would get vaccinated"), in those scenarios, the 'fear' to do what is right is used inappropriately.
This is the fear that I've overcome. Like the child, I know the vase is broken, but understand what comes next.
That's the best way I can put this, but let me know your thoughts.
“Jesus would take the vaccine” - Franklin Graham.
Yes, pastors preached fear of man, thereby creating the fear that separated the flock from the Living God. 💯
Pastors are running political buildings essentially (literally). I really want people seeking Christ to avoid most churches these days, the vast majority. That's why they push trusting the government, "news" as reality, medical system, vaccines, laws, and around voting seasons they subtly encourage you to go out and vote, even pushing the particular candidates they support. So for instance if the pastor is conservative, they'll usually be lowkey Trumpers, which is not something God would support either way because obviously, when we vote for what we believe to be a 'lesser' evil, we're supporting evil.
Biblically, the "church" wasn't a building, it was any body of believers, anywhere, studying God's word, no pastor or middleman needed!
I agree, Joe. It's not so much the fear of God but the fear of living without Him.
@franklin, it's also really important to look deeper into the text, particularly the Old Testament, and explore the meanings of the words in their original Hebrew and in their cultural context. Two examples:
1) 'obey' has a very different definition and meaning in our cultural context than it did in Moses' time. Merriam Webster will tell you 'obey' is to conform or to comply and gives examples such as a child or a dog. In Hebrew, the word is שָׁמַע shâmaʻ, shaw-mah'; which means to hear, to hear intelligently, to discern. There's an important distinction in that He is not asking for our blind and passive obedience. He has offered a path to everlasting life and a model of perfection in His son, and he is asking for us to show us that we heard Him by doing what He asks.
2) similarly, would it blow your mind if I told you that the very first word of the first book already says that he will send his Son to save the world? for that you need to look at the Hebrew word, 'bereshith' (in the beginning), but look at the Paleo-Hebrew word pictures that make up the word. Unfortunately I can't add images to this comment but if you message me I will send you the word picture of 'bereshith' - decoded, the letters spell out an amazing message.
Here's what each letter in Bereshith conveys:
Beyt (tent, house)
in, into, family, household
Resh (head of a man)
a person, the head, the highest
Alef (ox, bull)
strength, leader, first, El (God)
Shin (teeth)
to eat, to destroy, to consume
Yod (hand, arm)
work, deed, to make
Tav (sign)
to covenant, to mark, to seal
Putting these symbols together gives us something profound:
“The Son of the strong leader (El) goes forward to destruction (death) by His own hand to the covenant (the cross).”
Franklin has been attacking Christ quite a bit, it's obvious that he doesn't *want* to change his heart, as he doesn't respond to any kind of rebuttal with regard to his non-belief.
Lucas! My man! It's not that I "attack Christ," but more so I can see how not questioning anything about the faith can lead to "blind following."
My biggest thing is that we accept the Bible as it is—without taking into considerations the historical, geographical considerations.
There is power in the word, but we must really know and understand the word, not just the surface level story told to us.
In that case, my bad, I'm glad we could clear that up!
Lucas, our English translations are riddled with at best misleading and at worst outright wrong renderings of the original language. A few common words with a misleading shade of meaning can change the overall message.
Example: 'diakos' and its inflections are translated as righteous, upright, even pure; but means kind, loving, altruistic, (a true follower of the Golden Rule).
Other examples abound.
Well put!
I noticed this a long time ago, but I'm not Christian so maybe it's easier for me to see.
Baal and Moloch? Certainly the Zionists live in accordance with the commands put forth by "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 7. They are doing Moloch's work, genocide, plundering and stealing land. How can any true follower of Christ support that?
Dude - Richard, I saw your comment initially, but I just thought about it again and was like, "snap, you're right. Modern Zionists still follow the laws of 'The Lords' as in Baal and Moloch." I just started researching this and other ideas are coming to mind here. Thanks for this comment!
If you are not familiar with the Star Of Moloch, check it out
That's the thing Richard, those idiots supporting Israel are NOT true followers of Christ. You can't discern that, the "true" ones, without actually following Christ yourself, it's impossible. Actually, the Bible defines a true believer, but most pastors ignore those verses. Most Christians, aren't really Christians.
Wonderful Franklin! The True Divine God has nothing to do with the "god" of Fear!
It is crystal clear that the New Testament 'overrules' many of the precepts in the Old Testament. The clearest example is Paul's vision and conversion in Acts. Much of the latter New Testament, especially Galatians, Hebrews, and Ephesians focuses on warning die-hard (religious) Jews that 'We must divide the Law properly' and even 'If you accept circumcision Jesus will be of no value to you!' Jesus Himself made this clear, in the Good Samaritan (VERY 'toevah' at the time), and in declaring in Matthew 7:12, Do to and for others as you would have them do to and for you, for this is THE Law AND THE Prophets.' (capitalization of AND, THE for correct translation, original Greek are emphatic words)
Clearly, the New Testament overrules the Old, emphatically and strongly.