Oh, my. Where to start? I guess the thing that leaps out to me is that your first three "points" are nothing more than facts loosely related to space as a subject. Not one specific, articulated or sourced fact. But, hey. Maybe you're right.
So let me take the other side of the argument. But you're wondering, who is this J Boss character and why might he be qualified to disagree. Fair enough, so I'll provide why I can counter...
I have an electrical engineering degree and have worked at NASA for 30+ years, mostly because it was challenging work that pays well. Didn't really think so much of "space" or NASA because I was raised in it. I grew up in a suburb of Houston just 11 miles from JSC. I attended school with kids of many of the key flight control and design teams, knew Gene Kranz and half a dozen others that were in front room at the Mission Control Center during the Apollo 11 landing. I've become close friends with a dozen of the elders there that night and many other nights through my church and its leadership teams. My mom worked onsite in the administration building for 40 years.
And I should probably add, I witnessed the last space shuttle launch from the closest viewing location possible next to the Vehicle Assembly Building. Have YOU ever attended a launch? Felt the power vibrate your entire body? I guess you're not thinking THAT was faked because it's so easy to refute.
So, to say I've had a few conversations with the key principles that you're accusing of fraud would be putting it mildly. But, the conspiracy theory persists, so about two decades ago I began to ask questions about specific claims.
One of the earliest claims I recall seeing was the flag standing straight out defying even the reduced lunar gravity. Well, just so happens that the man responsible for that flag was an elder in my church. So eventually I asked about it. He kind of smirked at me, and asked me why I thought he might be involved with the flag? I had no clue, so he enlightened me: the primary point of the flag was the photo op. "How good a photo op would it be if the flag fell straight down and draped the pole?" I didn't think that would be so good. "And that's why the flag has a support rod going horizontally out, to keep it fully displayed."
And then there's the 'tin can" capsule held together with "tape" claim. So I asked Gene Kranz about the capsule design a number of times. You do know it has a heat shield on it, right? And that twice they had issues with it related to how thin it was... once was a faulty heat shield "loose" sensor that nearly forced a Gemini mission to reenter the earth's atmosphere at an angle never tried or even simulated before. The other was the Apollo 13 anomaly that forced the mission abort. So why is it so thin? Well, did you know the Saturn V rocket stood 36 stories tall at launch, but upon return the capsule was one story tall. Almost all the missing stack was fuel.
So let's move to today... I work in the training facility, where all the crew and flight controllers simulate various missions. That includes International Partners, commercial partners, everyone. I walked the fields recovering parts of the Columbia wreckage. I knew two family members of astronauts killed on Challenger. One of my friends from work and church was the assigned astronaut to a family from Columbia; he was at KSC for the landing that never happened with his assigned family. He was distraught for several weeks. He also spent 181 days onboard ISS, where I witnessed his muscle atrophy and recovery after he returned.
These people are NOT actors. They are remarkably calm under extreme pressure, but they could not control the emotions from those experiences. "The right stuff" does not include being able to fake crying for fake deaths.
I could go on and on, but why bother? You're not likely to believe me. But I'll say this: I'm as red pilled as anyone, and I'm always challenging what I think is the truth. Which is why I'm here, reading this post. What usually leads me to the conspiracy theory that turns to fact is that same instinct you're channeling, that too much of the oddities lead to a conclusion it can't be true.
The difference here is I've lived it for a lifetime with people that are not actors, whose stories never change, not even while drunk, with many hundreds of people involved. And I've never seen anything in my collective 70,000+ hours of work or a lifetime of relationships that's made me doubt it.
Maybe I'm blinded by my desire to believe. But I don't think so. The elite people I've worked with are the epitome of the NASA stereotype of "the right stuff" and smart nerds. I see technical "magic" happen among these teams multiple times a year. It's an amazing place and has been an amazing experience, which I didn't fully appreciate the first two decades.
Most of what people get wrong results from not understanding how "it" works. Space flight requires 100+ disciplines of elite experts working on razor thin margins with ultimate consequences if you're wrong. It's not for everyone; it's not like an airplane or typical IT data center.
J Boss, thanks for this comment and your experience as well! Definitely lends to the conversation.
I have A LOT more on this topic of space, especially from the esoteric perspective so more to come. But a lot of my questions come from the “why” piece — such as why haven’t we gone back? And why haven’t the Russians done it?
Another thing is the van-Ellen’s belt (if I spelled that correctly). How did we get past it then, if we haven’t been able to do so again?
These are the intricacies that are always “impossible to beat” — but somehow some way, we “beat time” as the narrative calls. Similar to 9/11 - jet fuel doesn’t melt steel, but in this scenario it does.
This is why I focus intently on “theories” and “principles” because it pokes holes in these narratives.
Thanks for this comment and looking forward to your thoughts on those questions posed! Always open for discussion !
Franklin, I’m excited to read this series and totally agree that these are the big 3 false flags in modern history. It was Covid that opened my eyes to these deceptions and if I was to extend your metaphor, I would say the big 3 are: space/physics; 911/wars and Covid/virus/vexines
All his-stories were/are written by those who won the culture-wars battles of their time and place. Those who had the gold and political power so to do. Such is of course also the case with the official institutional version of the life and teaching of Jesus of Galilee.
The original false flag operation was based on the lie re the presumed bodily resurrection of Jesus and that his brutal murder was/is "good news".
That bullshit promoted by the "Fathers" of the institutional church who won the culture wars of their time and place, and thus got to rewrite/define the "official" version of the life and teaching of Jesus has plagued the consciousness of Western man for over 1700 years now. And by extension the entire world too.
It could be; I cannot seem to keep time lines straight, in my head. lol
For THEE BEST (REAL) History Lessons, on a wide range of subjects (Egypt, NAZIS, World Wars, Physics, 'Space stuff', Religion, and so on), Dr. Joseph P. Farrell is a BRILLIANT man! He can be found as a guest on many shows/podcasts; some include Dark Journalist, Lost Battlefields w Tino Struckmann, The Common Surface, the old 'The Byte Show', and more.
And every Thursday, he releases an audio blog via his website; just go to 'About' and when the pull-down menu shows, click on Podcast. Dr. JPF also has his own YT channel, but with all of the censorship, he moved to his audio blogs via his website.
Interesting! Which one of Dr. Ferrell's books would you recommend reading first about this subject and to finally get to the truth about the moon, the shape of the earth, whether or not we actually went to the moon, what is the truth and what the psyops are? At this point I don't know what the truth is? I have no idea if the earth is flat or not? I mean it could be square or egg shaped as far as I know, ha ha, right! I just want to know the truth! Is it the Anunnaki? What was this planet that was blown up and why? What was this ancient war in heaven? What exactly are They keeping us distracted from regarding our true human history? I've seen all this information about an ancient war in heaven, this is what the ancient Gnostics believed! I do know that everything that we've ever been taught is a lie, so far that's the only truth I do know for sure!
While reading an idea occured to me concering the Columbia disaster. Was it a propaganda stunt to discourage all school children from ever wanting to attempt going to the moon???
Oh, my. Where to start? I guess the thing that leaps out to me is that your first three "points" are nothing more than facts loosely related to space as a subject. Not one specific, articulated or sourced fact. But, hey. Maybe you're right.
So let me take the other side of the argument. But you're wondering, who is this J Boss character and why might he be qualified to disagree. Fair enough, so I'll provide why I can counter...
I have an electrical engineering degree and have worked at NASA for 30+ years, mostly because it was challenging work that pays well. Didn't really think so much of "space" or NASA because I was raised in it. I grew up in a suburb of Houston just 11 miles from JSC. I attended school with kids of many of the key flight control and design teams, knew Gene Kranz and half a dozen others that were in front room at the Mission Control Center during the Apollo 11 landing. I've become close friends with a dozen of the elders there that night and many other nights through my church and its leadership teams. My mom worked onsite in the administration building for 40 years.
And I should probably add, I witnessed the last space shuttle launch from the closest viewing location possible next to the Vehicle Assembly Building. Have YOU ever attended a launch? Felt the power vibrate your entire body? I guess you're not thinking THAT was faked because it's so easy to refute.
So, to say I've had a few conversations with the key principles that you're accusing of fraud would be putting it mildly. But, the conspiracy theory persists, so about two decades ago I began to ask questions about specific claims.
One of the earliest claims I recall seeing was the flag standing straight out defying even the reduced lunar gravity. Well, just so happens that the man responsible for that flag was an elder in my church. So eventually I asked about it. He kind of smirked at me, and asked me why I thought he might be involved with the flag? I had no clue, so he enlightened me: the primary point of the flag was the photo op. "How good a photo op would it be if the flag fell straight down and draped the pole?" I didn't think that would be so good. "And that's why the flag has a support rod going horizontally out, to keep it fully displayed."
And then there's the 'tin can" capsule held together with "tape" claim. So I asked Gene Kranz about the capsule design a number of times. You do know it has a heat shield on it, right? And that twice they had issues with it related to how thin it was... once was a faulty heat shield "loose" sensor that nearly forced a Gemini mission to reenter the earth's atmosphere at an angle never tried or even simulated before. The other was the Apollo 13 anomaly that forced the mission abort. So why is it so thin? Well, did you know the Saturn V rocket stood 36 stories tall at launch, but upon return the capsule was one story tall. Almost all the missing stack was fuel.
So let's move to today... I work in the training facility, where all the crew and flight controllers simulate various missions. That includes International Partners, commercial partners, everyone. I walked the fields recovering parts of the Columbia wreckage. I knew two family members of astronauts killed on Challenger. One of my friends from work and church was the assigned astronaut to a family from Columbia; he was at KSC for the landing that never happened with his assigned family. He was distraught for several weeks. He also spent 181 days onboard ISS, where I witnessed his muscle atrophy and recovery after he returned.
These people are NOT actors. They are remarkably calm under extreme pressure, but they could not control the emotions from those experiences. "The right stuff" does not include being able to fake crying for fake deaths.
I could go on and on, but why bother? You're not likely to believe me. But I'll say this: I'm as red pilled as anyone, and I'm always challenging what I think is the truth. Which is why I'm here, reading this post. What usually leads me to the conspiracy theory that turns to fact is that same instinct you're channeling, that too much of the oddities lead to a conclusion it can't be true.
The difference here is I've lived it for a lifetime with people that are not actors, whose stories never change, not even while drunk, with many hundreds of people involved. And I've never seen anything in my collective 70,000+ hours of work or a lifetime of relationships that's made me doubt it.
Maybe I'm blinded by my desire to believe. But I don't think so. The elite people I've worked with are the epitome of the NASA stereotype of "the right stuff" and smart nerds. I see technical "magic" happen among these teams multiple times a year. It's an amazing place and has been an amazing experience, which I didn't fully appreciate the first two decades.
Most of what people get wrong results from not understanding how "it" works. Space flight requires 100+ disciplines of elite experts working on razor thin margins with ultimate consequences if you're wrong. It's not for everyone; it's not like an airplane or typical IT data center.
And it's not fake.
J Boss, thanks for this comment and your experience as well! Definitely lends to the conversation.
I have A LOT more on this topic of space, especially from the esoteric perspective so more to come. But a lot of my questions come from the “why” piece — such as why haven’t we gone back? And why haven’t the Russians done it?
Another thing is the van-Ellen’s belt (if I spelled that correctly). How did we get past it then, if we haven’t been able to do so again?
These are the intricacies that are always “impossible to beat” — but somehow some way, we “beat time” as the narrative calls. Similar to 9/11 - jet fuel doesn’t melt steel, but in this scenario it does.
This is why I focus intently on “theories” and “principles” because it pokes holes in these narratives.
Thanks for this comment and looking forward to your thoughts on those questions posed! Always open for discussion !
Fuck off you satanic piece of garbage.
Franklin, I’m excited to read this series and totally agree that these are the big 3 false flags in modern history. It was Covid that opened my eyes to these deceptions and if I was to extend your metaphor, I would say the big 3 are: space/physics; 911/wars and Covid/virus/vexines
I think there are countless lies being told about moon landings, space travel, satellites, etc.
Who setup the camera on the moon to film man’s first steps. Hmmm…
Who or what recorded the actual moon landing? 🤔
All his-stories were/are written by those who won the culture-wars battles of their time and place. Those who had the gold and political power so to do. Such is of course also the case with the official institutional version of the life and teaching of Jesus of Galilee.
The original false flag operation was based on the lie re the presumed bodily resurrection of Jesus and that his brutal murder was/is "good news".
That bullshit promoted by the "Fathers" of the institutional church who won the culture wars of their time and place, and thus got to rewrite/define the "official" version of the life and teaching of Jesus has plagued the consciousness of Western man for over 1700 years now. And by extension the entire world too.
Interesting. So, you are suggesting that the wisdom of "Jesus" is NOT "Good News"?
Most definitely!
Stop it!!
STOP this 'we never went to the moon' BULLSHIT!
That RUMOR was STARTED by NASA itself, at the time that the US went to the Moon.
It was a PsyOp to DISTRACT from TWO things, about 'our' Moon Mission.
1) It was to HIDE the FACT that the US used NAZI TECH to get on, and MORE importantly. OFF of the Moon!
2) To DISTRACT from WHAT was FOUND ON THE Moon! Which was/IS.......ANCIENT RUINS!
For those that haven't figured it out yet.....not only do they LIE about History, they have LIED ABOUT OUR HUMAN HISTORY!
(we did NOT 'come from monkeys'; THEY CAME FROM US!)
There are Ancient Ruins on the Moon, Mars and ALL OVER OUR SOLAR SYSTEM!
That Asteroid Belt that's 'floating' out in space?? That USED TO BE a PLANET!
It was BLOWN UP during an 'ANCIENT WAR IN HEAVEN'.
'We never went to the Moon' <<< PsyOp
'Q' <<<< PsyOp
'Flat Earth' <<< PsyOp
and I can keep going!
DawnieR! Thanks for this comment! When you say asteroid belt blown up, you referring to Annunaki wars?!
It could be; I cannot seem to keep time lines straight, in my head. lol
For THEE BEST (REAL) History Lessons, on a wide range of subjects (Egypt, NAZIS, World Wars, Physics, 'Space stuff', Religion, and so on), Dr. Joseph P. Farrell is a BRILLIANT man! He can be found as a guest on many shows/podcasts; some include Dark Journalist, Lost Battlefields w Tino Struckmann, The Common Surface, the old 'The Byte Show', and more.
Here is Dr. Farrell's website (which includes his 40+ books)..... https://gizadeathstar.com/
And every Thursday, he releases an audio blog via his website; just go to 'About' and when the pull-down menu shows, click on Podcast. Dr. JPF also has his own YT channel, but with all of the censorship, he moved to his audio blogs via his website.
Interesting! Which one of Dr. Ferrell's books would you recommend reading first about this subject and to finally get to the truth about the moon, the shape of the earth, whether or not we actually went to the moon, what is the truth and what the psyops are? At this point I don't know what the truth is? I have no idea if the earth is flat or not? I mean it could be square or egg shaped as far as I know, ha ha, right! I just want to know the truth! Is it the Anunnaki? What was this planet that was blown up and why? What was this ancient war in heaven? What exactly are They keeping us distracted from regarding our true human history? I've seen all this information about an ancient war in heaven, this is what the ancient Gnostics believed! I do know that everything that we've ever been taught is a lie, so far that's the only truth I do know for sure!
Where is the evidence that the moon is a floating ball of rock?
That's right, keep O'Kanu's feet to the fire! Don't let him make heavy footed assertions when he is treading on such brittle ground :)
While reading an idea occured to me concering the Columbia disaster. Was it a propaganda stunt to discourage all school children from ever wanting to attempt going to the moon???
I was fascinated by the film American Moon. An in depth analysis of the subject.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KpuKu3F0BvY&si=IjVUIpxhJb6B26Yc
Everyone knows the moon is made of cheese. Fact!